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Magdalena's avatar

hey! thanks for sharing. such an interesting topic.

i too have recently questioned my urge to journal the bad things that happen to me. i used to write lengthy entries detailing exactly how i would feel, which, in some of my worst moments, would include a list of all the things that make me abhor myself, or even more morbid stuff. but i then was like is this really helping?? and i reached a similar conclusion than yours: not really

i still keep muy journal, but for organization and keepsake purposes. however i have stopped compulsively writing whenever i feel sad or mad or unhappy. i think it's for the best

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abigail weinberg's avatar

At first I resented the therapist who told me to “limit negative self-talk” because I was like, self-deprecation is my entire personality. Turns out he was right!!

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Magdalena's avatar

Yes! I read a quote here on substack that made me realize that self deprecation was some sort of comfort practice for me: it was something like "who despises themselves , secretly admires themselves as the one who despises". It's a Nietzsche paraphrase.

It's not easy to not hate oneself ever, but now I try to at least not soak up in all that self hate and not to celebrate my hater (me) by giving her too much space for those thoughts.

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Geo Collins's avatar

I was thinking similar thoughts just this morning. I journaled from 16-21 and again from 25-28 and while I enjoy the practise, I noticed a cycle I don’t like: the more I’m unhappy at any one time, the more I journal. To the point it becomes a comfort of my day that feels unmovable and inhibits me from doing the shit that would fix my issues.

I hate it when people overdo the romanticisation of their own pain so idk why I’ve allowed myself to do the same thing

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Magdalena's avatar

regarding the last line: don't be so harsh on yourself!! you've probably allowed it because journaling is commonly advertised as a nothing but positive practice, or because we do have a tendency to wallow in our pain sometimes.

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abigail weinberg's avatar

I actually asked my therapist if I should try to journal more when I’m happy and she was like no, you don’t want to make it into something you feel like you *have* to do. That’s not to say that I won’t return to it someday; it’s just not helping me rn.

I’m glad you identified that pattern tho. I think it’s so easy to get sucked into a habit, and just being aware that it’s maybe counterintuitive is the first step toward changing it.

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Geo Collins's avatar

Yeah, I’ve never felt pressured to journal (and you should avoid doing it out of obligation) but it’s more like it’s become a comfortable habit that I lean towards more when I feel crappy. It feels ‘good’ in the same way scrolling TikTok does. Like in the back of your head you’re like ‘this isn’t actually helping I need to just get up and fix my shit.’ Def gonna snap out of it now I’ve clocked the issue

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Emma Kate West's avatar

Thank you for writing this. As someone with OCD, it deeply resonated with me in a way I have not experienced before. 🩷

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Abigail's avatar

gorgeous work. reminds me of a really cool novel i read last year called 'memory piece' by lisa ko!

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Conor McCammon's avatar

I really relate to this and your journal entries could have been written by a younger me. Every time I look in an old journal it’s just negative thoughts and self-talk on a loop, like a totally different person was writing. I think we tend to journal more when we’re feeling bad in an attempt to figure out what’s wrong with us and strategise a solution, but it means that all the entries are just grim 😓 meanwhile my happiest times are never documented

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Elizabeth Weinberg's avatar

miriam the GOAT

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abigail weinberg's avatar

RIP

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